#007: Psychedelic Crisis Counseling at Burning Man with Seth Pearson

Did you know that there are actually counselors out there that help people that are tripping on psychedelics through a potential psychedelic crisis?

 Wanna know more? I’m on top of it…

Welcome to episode number seven where we’re going be talking about psychedelic crisis counseling.

But first, you may or may not have heard of Burning Man, a temporary metropolis in the Nevada desert that’s dedicated to community, art, self-expression, and self-reliance. But what’s it really like? Are the people there all on drugs? And if so, how does Burning Man ensure their guests stay safe? Well in this episode, you’ll learn about a harm reduction organization that partners with Burning Man called The Zendo Project.

Second, have you ever wondered about people that have taken psychedelics like mushrooms or LSD? What happens if someone is having a hard time with the experience and perceives it to be a psychedelic crisis… do they just have to ride it out? Or is there anything someone can do to help them?  Well in this episode, you’ll learn about the four pillars of psychedelic crisis counseling and how anyone can use these pillars to talk someone through a difficult psychedelic experience.

My guest today is Seth Pearson (@SethPearson), who is a psychedelic crisis counselor for the Zendo Project. He has experience working several years at one of the wildest places on earth: Burning Man. Now, not only does he act as a psychedelic crisis counselor, but he’s also a self-love counselor and teaches people how they can practice self-love in their daily lives. As a bonus, in this episode, you’ll learn some tips to practice self-love in your daily lives so you can be your best self.



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What is a psychedelic?[skipto time=”2:18″]
What is a psychedelic crisis?[skipto time=”4:18″]
What is Burning Man? 1/2[skipto time=”6:28″]
How Shambhala music festival practices harm reduction.[skipto time=”9:39″]
What is Burning Man? 2/2[skipto time=”11:29″]
Burning Man: The burning of the man.[skipto time=”15:23″]
What is the Zendo Project?[skipto time=”18:48″]
Seth’s first experience with the Zendo Project.[skipto time=”19:14″]
How Seth’s perceived psychedelic crisis got him through his fear of death.[skipto time=”26:11″]
The Zendo Project mission, vision, and accomplishments.[skipto time=”29:11″]
What is it like being a psychedelic crisis counselor?[skipto time=”32:18″]
What is the “set” in set and setting?[skipto time=”35:05″]
What are the four pillars of psychedelic harm reduction?[skipto time=”35:33″]
How psychedelics can help someone process trauma.[skipto time=”37:29″]
What is the “setting” in set & setting?[skipto time=”39:46″]
Dealing with fearing how psychedelics could change you.[skipto time=”56:20″]
What’s most difficult about being a psychedelic crisis counselor?[skipto time=”1:02:52″]
What the most rewarding part about being a psychedelic crisis counselor?[skipto time=”1:05:57″]
How Seth became a self-love counselor.[skipto time=”1:08:05″]
Defining self-love.[skipto time=”1:11:27″]
How to practice self-love when you don’t feel like it.[skipto time=”1:13:29″]
Tips to start practicing self-love.[skipto time=”1:18:28″]

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#003 How to Embrace Change with Nathan Ashby

Self-Starter. Performer. Experimenter. Originally hailing from London, England, Nathan Ashby has leveraged his passion for travel and hard work to acquire a multitude of world experiences to push himself forward in life through embracing change and the fear that naturally comes with it. Over the course of his life so far, he’s traveled the world, eventually relocating to the United States, started over with forming relationships, and has worked in many different industries, finding his place in life.

In this episode, you’ll hear his story on how he learned to embrace the many changes in his life. You’ll also learn some tactics on how to become more resilient so you can bounce back from changes in your life, stronger than ever before.


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  • Moving to America and starting over [skipto time=”1:19″]
  • Adapting to Hawaiian culture [skipto time=”6:07″]
  • Lessons learned from moving to a new country [skipto time=”8:45″]
  • Trying different jobs [skipto time=”14:1″]
  • Embracing change [skipto time=”20:57″]
  • Why feeling fear is good [skipto time=”22:02″]
  • Transitioning into the corporate world [skipto time=”30:00″]
  • Transferrable skills [skipto time=”33:18″]
  • Reasons people fear change 1/2 [skipto time=”36:56″]
  • Major life changes [skipto time=”39:28″]
  • Avoiding the hedonic treadmill [skipto time=”42:59″]
  • Reasons people fear change 2/2 [skipto time=”46:46″]
  • Transferrable Skills 2/2 [skipto time=”49:09″]
  • What does adapting to change mean to Jon Meisburg? [skipto time=”53:12″]
  • Going through multiple changes at once [skipto time=”54:50″]
  • Formative years and adapting to change [skipto time=”58:29″]
  • What makes a relationship last [skipto time=”1:01:58″]
  • How the universe can force you to change [skipto time=”1:04:47″]
  • How to be more resilient [skipto time=”1:08:41″]
  • Can negative emotion be used in a positive way? [skipto time=”1:10:10″]
  • Is forgiveness necessary to move on? [skipto time=”1:21:51″]
  • The Hedonic Treadmill [skipto time=”1:24:29″]
  • Final Words [skipto time=”1:27:30″]



If any listeners have any experience with change, I’d love to hear from you…

How have you been able to embrace change and become more resilient?

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